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billyD
04-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Here is a movie of a typical MA engagement and some basic ACM tactics to defeat a higher con. It's best to watch from multiple view points to understand the application. The moves are rather simple but timing is critical and the really good sticks may not fall for all of them. :)

In the beginning of the film Wixxer engages me from a higher alt standpoint. I have the superior plane which I'm gonna use against him however he has alot more alt to turn into energy and a better turning radius. My goal is to sucker him into burning off his E and then using the climb rate of the K4 I'm gonna shoot his ass down....

the first series of moves he dives on me from my high six. I use a split S to foil his gun solution. He pulls into a high yo yo to maintain his alt. He attempts another dive and I remerge with a chopped throttle luftberry to again foil his gun solution. He pulls into another yo yo. Through this series of manuvers I have pushed him down a bit however and begin to set up the coup de gras ...! After another split S manuver he Yo's yos again and then I prepare to employ a vertical move/trap. On his next dive attempt I Dive to gain plenty of E. As soon as I see his nose is down and He is fully involved I pull straight vertical almost a little into him......here he has no gun solution because he is pulling so many gs. Here is the trick after he passes below me I roll the plane over on its back and deploy full flaps to hang there. Wixxer blows all his E trying to re engage giving me a gun solution. The pirrouette move allows the plane being attacked to pull his nose on the ea while the ea is still trying to reallign to the victim......hope this helps some of you in a sticky situation......

the film is below......any comments or a better anaylisis of this film is welcome
http://www.mediafire.com/?y0ljg30mz0y


times for ACM

:29 seconds split s

:56 seconds luftburry remerge

1:11 seconds split s

1:35 seconds luftburry remerge

1:57 seconds vertical sucker

2:01 - :02 the pirrouette is clearly visible thru wixxers windscreen

2:18 hang time full flaps rotating nose to target....note him flopping around lookin for me

2:28 gun solution, tater shot

Krupnski
04-03-2009, 05:53 PM
Hello billy,

Up for a few 1v1s sometime? i'd like to try this out, i always have trouble with high cons. :(

JunkyII
04-04-2009, 12:12 AM
Billy,
Your making your moves alittle early which isnt a bad thing because they arent getting any gun solution on you but if you wait you can force the fight alittle faster so when your in a bigger furball you can deal with the attacking plane faster a survive better

SunsFan
04-04-2009, 05:40 AM
Billy,
I think your over complicating things. all those split S's could be avoided if you do this move. http://www.filefactory.com/file/af9d5ef/n/lead_d_move1_ahf
What im doing is centered on him pulling lead on me. Once I see him pulling for the shot, i go straight vertical, and roll my nose where i think his is going to be. This does two things, it throws off his shot, and it gives me a shot as he goes up.

skullman
04-04-2009, 09:02 PM
thanks to both of ya as being at alt disadvantage is a big prob for me

billyD
04-05-2009, 06:21 AM
Ty wise sensai ! ....kinda like a variation of that vertical holy sheep shit move you taught me to use on a dead six con...COOL


ridiculous tater shot btw :)

MORE FILMS keep em comin!!!!

SunsFan
04-06-2009, 05:02 AM
Heres a better one.. http://dasmuppets.com/public/Suns/highconD1.ahf When he starts to nose down on me I go up, when He's going up I'm going down. I'm using his own E against him by forcing a rolling scissor. He's going faster than me, making it so i can get the angle on him. Every move in this game has a counter, it's about knowing what's going on around you so you can make the best judgement call.